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I don't believe Chan wants you to move to Ethiopia. But if that's what it takes for you to love God back, so be it. As for condemning people to Hell, it does ask everyone to seriously contemplate their faith. Those are to me some of the scariest verses in the bible, and it's important to discuss it openly. But as opposed to condemnation, you can approach those verses with the understanding that Jesus both likes you and loves you more than you can possibly imagine and that his grace is stronger than you can imagine.

This book isn't without its faults. Two friends of mine that I think very highly of gave this book a one-star rating, and I'm sure that they weren't just plugging their ears to reject the premise. After all, theology is still very important. We don't need to "please God" like the book seems to imply. Christ's righteousness is enough for us, which is great because our righteousness is as dirty rags to him anyways Isaiah This may not be the best book for a recent convert because of the theology.

It could be possible to incorrectly get the idea of works based salvation from this book. However, this book helped breath new life into my relationship with God. It restored my perspective on love and liking not only between Jesus and me, but also between me and my community. This book powerfully delivers a message that the American church needs to hear. Jul 22, Tim Yearneau rated it did not like it. I have to be honest, I disliked this book. I respect what Chan tries to accomplish and for the choices he has personally made, but I disagree with him wholesale on many levels.

The theme is very Catholic in nature; I deserve nothing, I am not worthy, I must constantly suffer, accomplishing personal goals and dreams are only a manifestation of greed and selfishness. Ok, fine, I admit it; I am a former Catholic. I applaud him for walking the talk; downsizing his house, taking I have to be honest, I disliked this book. I applaud him for walking the talk; downsizing his house, taking the same salary as when he first started, choosing a much smaller footprint for church expansion, etc. But dreams and goals come from God to begin with.

So why are they bad? I don't agree we should all downsize and live at the same economic level to eradicate poverty. Redistribution of wealth has been tried and it doesn't work, i. I don't think it's a requirement to demean ourselves and jump on the sword in order to help our fellow man. I offer the Parable of the Talents. In it the Master rewards the servants who not only used their talents, but multiplied them. He punished the servant who played conservative and didn't use the talents given him.

I offer Doctors Without Borders as an example. They work hard to develop their talents and gain personally from those talents, but choose to share their talents, while at the same time not demeaning themselves. Chan promotes a radical philosophy that says "you downsize so others can upsize.

There is nothing wrong with this, in fact, it is admirable. However, he ignores that Paul also stated it shouldn't be a case of now the other person has is easy while you suffer. Chan further points to a singular verse in the Bible where it says to sell all of your possessions and give to the poor as being the singular Truth we should all live by. His example of this Truth in action is of the guy at his church, upon hearing the Truth, donated his house to the church and moved in with his parents, stating it didn't matter where he lived as long as he has a house in Heaven.

While this is noble, it says God is finite. Everything I have read or heard says God is infinite. God's ability to provide isn't like a pie, where there are only eight slices, and if you have two slices someone else gets none. My other problem with Chan's singular Truth is it focuses on one line, " In that passage, Matthew Jesus looked at them intently and said, 'Humanly speaking, it is impossible.

But with God everything is possible. For example, perhaps Jesus is reminding us that as humans we think and operate in terms of limits, and God does not. Personally, I'm focusing on "'But with God everything is possible. He gets dogmatic in that he tends to focuse on one line in a passage without considering the whole context. The way Chan presents it, success is evil. I contend that dreams and goals are not bad, they're good. For example, Milton Hershey didn't skimp on his dreams and goals, yet gave away his fortune for the greater good. Every Tech Ed program in America can thank him for that.

I contend that opportunity eradicates poverty Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Chuck Feeney, and Abraham Flexner are modern day examples of those, like Hershey, who multiplied their talents in the spirit of the Parable of the Talents, and gave back to society.

We should share our skills, talents, and abundance, but I don't think it's a requirement that we tear ourselves down to do it. Jul 05, Matt rated it it was amazing Recommended to Matt by: Cornerstone Simi Valley Podcast.

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This book is incredible. One of my all time favorites. Chan takes simple truths we have heard our whole lives, but actually challenges and dares us to change our lives.

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Apr 23, Tom rated it did not like it Shelves: I'll admit up front that I went into this book with a bias. I've seen Chan give talks and read one of his other books. Something has itched at me about him. This book helps me understand why I have been bugged, but I don't think it's fair for me to speculate too much in public. I'll just say that I understand now why he chose to leave his church, seemingly sell his family's possessions and "follow the Spirit" wherever. I don't think he could have published this book with a straight face unless h I'll admit up front that I went into this book with a bias.

I don't think he could have published this book with a straight face unless he eventually did so. I'll just say that this book is really one chapter, one sermon, stretched into pages through a saturation of scripture quotes not a bad thing and repetition. My theological take is that Chan knows only the law not the Gospel and, ironically for a Pentecostal, does not seem to trust the Holy Spirit to produce fruit, seen and unseen, in the lives of those who hear the Word in faith. Chan's "gospel" is a new and higher form of the law love and nearly entirely misunderstands grace, faith, and baptism.

He will acknowledge salvation by faith alone, but the entire message of the book is salvation by love alone, as evidenced by a very particular experience of God, personal righteousness, and works of the law. It is a strange thing to speak against love, but in our present reality where the old Adam hangs around our necks even as we are new in Christ, we live by faith, not sight, not love, not feelings. Love is wonderful when you feel it, but it is fleeting, it is not primary and it is not justifying. Instead of the authentic paradox of a sinner-saint like the father in Mark 9, "Lord I believe, help my unbelief," Chan sees things in black and white.

You are "all-in" or "all-out. Martin Luther's Heidelburg Disputation includes, "The law says, 'Do this' and it is never done; grace says, 'believe this,' and behold everything is already done. Love is only love when it doesn't score points. I don't feel like taking the time to unpack my takes any further, but if you want to engage in conversation or push back, please leave a comment. View all 6 comments. Jul 26, Hansen Wendlandt rated it did not like it.

If you like the idea of a cool surfing Jesus, who sends most surfers to hell for not being deeply committed Christians, this is a book for you! If you need your regular boost of weak theology, flat Bible interpretation, and smiling preachers talking about a distinctly depressing God, this is a book for you! To be fair, Crazy Love does in fact add a touch of narrative creativity and useful morality to the basic, useless evangelical message: Despite his all-too-regular message that God will bless true believers, and his obvious and unobjectionable call to donate more of our blessings, Chan embraces solidarity with the poor and repudiates any hint of the prosperity gospel, in ways uncommon to the evangelical community.

Another creative aspect of Crazy Love is its view of creation. If Chan could apply that sort of non-literal reading to even a few of the hundreds of Scripture passages he quotes, he might preach himself into a decent book. As it is, however, Crazy Love brings nothing special to Christian literature.

Meanwhile it forces us to deal with theological inconsistencies Is the book right, that God must punish sin 34 or the video that God can choose to punish us? Jul 25, Amy rated it liked it. I'm not a very good Christian these days - heck, I'm not even sure if I qualify as Christian, since I'm not big on evangelism - but I do believe that the way Christ lived is the way we should live - loving, giving, sacrificing, and with minimal possessions.

So I find myself wondering how there can be so many wealthy Christians in the world; doesn't hoarding and having so much when others have so little go against Christ's teachings? I'm glad to know now - after Chan's call to live "to the median I'm not a very good Christian these days - heck, I'm not even sure if I qualify as Christian, since I'm not big on evangelism - but I do believe that the way Christ lived is the way we should live - loving, giving, sacrificing, and with minimal possessions.

I'm glad to know now - after Chan's call to live "to the median" and trust God to provide - that I'm not the only one out there that thinks that. He's a pastor and he thinks it. Maybe I'm not such a heathen after all. This book is bound to get some people thinking about how much they have and how much they should be giving, which is a very good thing. The things I dislike about the book have more to do with what I dislike about Christianity in general and not the book or Chan himself.

It's a worthwhile read for anyone who thinks there journey as a Christian is never complete and they can always sacrifice more shouldn't that be everyone? View all 8 comments. Oct 30, Mason Wren rated it it was ok Shelves: This used to be a 5-star book for me. I've read it multiple times. I started a devotional study around this book before the group material and videos were ever released.

It was extremely important and helpful for me during that time in my life. But as I have grown in my faith and understanding of God, I have seen many flaws in its theology and perspective and I don't believe it accurately portrays the heart of God, the father of the prodigal. In my opinion, this book called crazy love falls shor This used to be a 5-star book for me. In my opinion, this book called crazy love falls short of capturing the God who not only loves, but is love, and who's every action is defined by love.

Instead this book often uses fear, guilt, and shame to attempt to get people to love God back by doing what he requires us to do. And if we don't do those things, this God will reject us and punish us forever Again, this book was really helpful for me at a more beginning developmental stage, but I don't believe it is the most accurate picture of the love of God and how that love transforms us and inspires us to our full potential of what we were created to be.

Apr 12, Ben De Bono rated it it was ok Shelves: I honestly don't like being the person who winds up disparaging books that everyone else seems to adore. I enjoy excellent work and do my best to avoid a cynical perspective that looks for reasons to be critical. Nevertheless I seem to often find myself as one of the lone dissenting voices amid a cacophony of fawning praise.

And so it is with Crazy Love.

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My friend, Dave, mentioned in his review that Francis Chan seems to be one of the most genuine people out there. I'd have to agree. This book i I honestly don't like being the person who winds up disparaging books that everyone else seems to adore. This book is written with the utmost sincerity and conviction. In addition, most of the material present isn't wrong in and of itself. My negative reaction to the book doesn't stem from a belief the Chan is going against Scripture with his teaching or anything of the sort.

So why the low rating? There are a few main reasons I'll highlight. The book is mired with the individualism that is such a negative force in evangelical theology. No doubt many who have read the book will raise an eyebrow at that statement? Doesn't Chan spend an enormous portion of the book talking about caring for the poor and disavowing selfish Christianity? But consider the way he goes about advocating that position. His arguments are focused on how God can use YOU as an individual.

It's clear throughout that Chan's ecclesiology, like most of evangelicalism, is virtually nonexistent. Even more to the point, the first half the book only encourages the just "me and God" mentality that is truly a scourge of evangelical theology. A personal relationship with God is important and biblical, but it must be grounded in the covenantal and ecclesiological context put forward in Scripture. When it's not, we're left with individualism. It may be selfless individualism, but it's individualism all the same. Chan's points are true but they lack a proper context.

As such, they serve to only encourage a major evangelical error. The book promotes the anti-intellectual attitude that is far too prominent in evangelical thought. Consider this passage from chapter 5: In an earlier draft of this chapter, I quoted several commentators who agreed with my point of view. But we all know that you can find quotes to support any view you want to take. You can even tweak word studies to help you in your effort. I don't want to claim that the Spirit can't work through a "simple reading" of Scripture or that there are no valuable insights to come from such a reading.

However, what Chan is doing, intentionally or not, is encouraging his readings to disregard scholarship in favor of their own readings. The hermeneutical problems with that are abundant. In addition it encourages a cultural arrogance that far too many 21st century readers already suffer from. I don't think it's Chan's intention do so, but intended or not, that is the effect of his words.

I've spent a great deal of time in my ministry trying to combat the anti-masculine bias present in modern Christianity note: The tone Chan writes with in this book only combats the efforts of myself and others with similar concerns. As a straight male, I'm tired of being told, as Chan does repeatedly in this book, that I need to "fall passionately in love with Jesus.

We're keeping things platonic, thank you very much. I'm being facetious and overstating things for the sake of making a point, but it is a very serious problem. If we want to turn around the masculine crisis that Murrow documents so clearly in his book, we need to stop using the language Chan does in this book. It's not helping and it will only drive men further away from the church.

I don't want to act like the book is all bad. I applaud Chan's efforts to point out that grace is a starting point, not an ending point. But overall the book is riddled with problems. I understand why it's so popular, but I find the fact that it is so a little disheartening. If we want to turn the church around it is essential we fix our ecclesiology, stop eschewing intellectualism and stop driving away men.

While I liked the book, certain ideas about Christianity bothered me. I don' Ugg don't you wiggle arround when a book challenges you to do better. Are you hungry for an authentic faith that addresses the problems of our world with tangible, even radical, solutions? This isn't always the most comfortable book to read. That covers several of them anyway.

Unfortunately, this book does the exact opposite of what is needed in those three areas. For all its admirable qualities, it ultimately does much more harm than good. Sep 08, Hope rated it it was amazing Shelves: Because reading this book was a rather personal experience, I want this review to be personal. The past few months have taught me anew that it is the biggest deal in the whole wide world and we should talk about it as much as we possibly can because it is a huge deal!

So let me tell you about this book, my friend. I have a whole pot of hot tea and no one but you to share it with. About halfway through this book I was struck with a terrible case of depression. You probably noticed I stopped writing to you for a while…actually, I stopped writing at all.

I stopped reading this book, too. It just seemed unimportant. I felt like it was telling me all these things I already knew…and it made me tired. Like the world was suddenly very big and empty and I was very lost in it. And then that passed and I buried myself in a lot of things. Clothes, travel, work…for about a month.

I replenished my wardrobe, I worked every day, I visited NYC for a week… And the world still was feeling rather empty, though a bit smaller than before. And I was still feeling mostly aimless in my existence. Stuff I already knew but had, I guess, sort of just forgotten about. Page to page I used to do many of the same things I do now, but I was motivated by guilt or fear of consequences. When we work for Christ out of obligation, it feels like work. But when we truly love Christ, our work is a manifestation of that love, it feels like love.

I would be happier. Instead, tell Him how you feel. Tell Him that you want Him to change you, that you long to genuinely enjoy Him. Tell Him how you want to experience true satisfaction and pleasure and joy in your relationship with Him. Tell Him you want to love Him more than anything on this earth. Tell Him what you like about Him, what you appreciate, and what brings you joy. Why would I confess that to Him? All my life I have struggled to put Him first and failed to do so over and over, and yet I never thought of telling Him about that in my prayers. But I never thought to do that.

Or anyone else, for that matter! It made me reevaluate my life, in a good way, and for that I am so very thankful. All I can say is that I recommend this book to everyone. I loved it very much and I intend to re-read it in the near future with a highlighter or a pencil nearby to mark my favorite parts, because there were many! And remember, live recklessly for HIM. View all 3 comments. Jun 23, Kamsin Kaneko rated it it was ok.

I guess this book is pretty challenging, but something about Chan's style or his theology or just his general intensity didn't quite sit right with me. Maybe I used to think that God was calling me to "give up everything" and live only for him and give away everything to the poor, the way this book says. But now I think that I don't need to be "crazy" to love God. Maybe quiet, day to day acts of faithfulness, in a fairly ordinary kind of a life are just as important as the big, "wow, you're so a I guess this book is pretty challenging, but something about Chan's style or his theology or just his general intensity didn't quite sit right with me.

Maybe quiet, day to day acts of faithfulness, in a fairly ordinary kind of a life are just as important as the big, "wow, you're so amazing" acts which Chan seems to advocate. I mean how many people show up for work every day and try to find the best in themselves and each other? Especially as a teacher, it seems so many teachers have little faith in, or respect for, their students. And all the simple day to day things like loving your spouse might not seem very heroic, but how many people actually do this consistently? As for his ideas on Christians living safe, comfy lives.

I don't know exactly what God has to say about that, but whilst walking round a photography exhibition with photos from some of the worlds most troubled and dangerous places, I left thinking the world is a pretty scary, unsafe kind of a place for the vast majority of people. Maybe trying to protect what with have is a natural reaction to that fact?

Anyway, Chan seems to be super popular and I keep seeing his words quoted on blogs and facebook, but for whatever reason, I'm not a fan. Nov 07, Nick rated it it was ok Shelves: This book has a huge fan base in the evangelical world. So many of my personal friends have gone gaga over this book that I feel a little guilty busting it down to two stars. However, I have several reasons that I must do so.

Is it because I'm a calloused Christian that isn't willing to be "overwhelmed by a relentless God"? It's that I'm not overwhelmed by this book I am really hard pressed to find any new material in this book. Recently there has been a wave of si This book has a huge fan base in the evangelical world.

Recently there has been a wave of similar books calling for comfortable suburban Christians to get Radical about their faith and realize that there is a Hole In the Gospel well That covers several of them anyway. I haven't read all of these books, so I will refrain from commenting on them and stick to Crazy Love. Here's the deal Tozer and Bonhoffer said it better. I'll stick with them. I usually like books that give me a kick in the pants, but this one did not engage me at all. I agreed with much of what Chan was saying. Christians play it entirely too safe and half-heartedly worship Christ all the time.

So, when I was bored to tears reading this book, I sat down and analyzed why. This point alone will require subpoints sorry folks, that's just the kind of mood I'm in at the moment. Chan should have fired his editor and hired a new one who would tell him when he was going all over the place, or say, "Hey, Francis, could you flesh this out more. This was just starting to get interesting and you left it dangling only to repeat some of this in a further chapter.

They seem true but if you really want to sell me, it would help to have some supporting data or stories or whatever. Am I being hard on Francis? Maybe but that is because I like good writing, and this is not good writing. Reading this felt like reading a blog instead of a book. I am probably spoiled by reading guys like C. That might be true, but if you are going to the work of publishing a book learn how to write well.

This may just go back to subpoint A I'm still not sure, and so it gets its own subpoint. Chan's approach to his goal is confusing and muddled. I notice that several other reviewers have picked up on this as well. So he sends you to some websites I hate when books do this by the way. I'm reading a book. If you wanted me to link to something, write a blog. Take the time an describe or quote the content for crying out loud! What happens a couple years down the road when these sites are dead links? Your book is outdated that's what. He spends several chapters upfront trying to guilt the reader into loving God more.

Then it seems that he back pedals somewhat, saying that you cannot make yourself love God more. He spends a whole chapter on the "Profile of a Lukewarm Christian" in which some of the traits are distilled from Scripture and some have no referent other than the opinions of Chan. He makes some hard claims, but then softens them in the next chapter. He says that he is not trying to preach works and that the Holy Spirit must do the work.

I believe that he is attempting to preach a gospel of grace, but his delivery stinks. He needs to build clearer, more nuanced arguments instead of making sweeping claims that he has to clarify later. In the end, I am kind of confused about how Chan wants his readers to go about being "overwhelmed by a relentless God. He states the problem and says we need to change, but when it comes to reasons why this is the case he comes up short.

And finally, it suffers from the same problems that many of these type of books do, namely it focuses on extreme examples of social justice or financial stewardship. If you aren't downsizing your house or biking to work, then you aren't an extreme enough Christian. These types of books give lip service to less dramatic ways of serving God, but they don't get page time when it comes to examples. This last point reveals the limitations of the authors, but if you are going to make general statements for the American Church at least get a peek into the world of average small town America.

Well, I guess I was pretty hard on this book. It works for a lot of people. I actually liked some of what he had to say, but in the end I have to say that I think this book is greatly over rated. The huge success of this book, and others like it, reveals that there is a desperate need in our churches for real, life changing relationship with Jesus Christ. I commend Chan for speaking out against self-absorbed, cushy Christianity. I only wish he had done a better job. Jul 25, Adriane Devries rated it really liked it Shelves: He compares modern American Christians to a boy asking a girl on a date, but not wanting to drive her to the restaurant or to pay for her meal.

Likewise, for many Christians the cost of truly obeying Christ is too high, calling into question whether we are fully committed to Him or not. If we are justifying our choices of entertainment and hobbies, or avoiding sacrificial service, we are reflecting a heart condition towards God that is lukewarm at best. Chan talks about the myth that we are in control of our lives, how pride plays into it, and how worship, prayer, and purposeful joy result from giving this control over to the Lord.

He measures our lives by how we love. Sep 12, Le Chuck rated it it was ok. This book is like the literary equivalent of boot camp. I don't need to read one more "Christian" book that reminds me what a failure I am and how far I fall from the mark. I just don't think God had this type of " evangelism" in mind, call me crazy.

I also love how the author calls for us all to practically quit our jobs and follow God to the ends of the earth. Who would be around then to heal the sick? I don't need o This book is like the literary equivalent of boot camp. I don't need one more "pastor" telling me that I should drop everything and go on mission trip. Perhaps God has put me through 15 years of post graduate education so that I can utilize it?

Or perhaps I should stop being such a bad Christian, have more faith, quit my career, and move to some place where I am not welcome and do things I am not trained to do, all the while watching my student loans compound and multiply. Yeah, I think God understands that we can't all be missionaries.

I wish more of my peers would figure that out. In essence, this book exemplifies many of the attributes of modern evangelicism that I find to be counter productive. View all 5 comments. Mar 26, Richie rated it it was amazing. Everybody should read this book. Jun 24, Chriskimpston rated it liked it. I struggled on whether or not to give this book 2 or 3 stars.

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While I liked the book, certain ideas about Christianity bothered me. The more I investigated the things with which I disagreed, I realized that it wasn't as much the actual theological ideas as much as his wording. Therefore, since Chan's book was an articulate communication of the love of God, I went with 3. The book is pretty good, save a few things that I personally took issue with. These are just MY opinions, I'm not saying that I struggled on whether or not to give this book 2 or 3 stars.

These are just MY opinions, I'm not saying that my opinion is the correct one, I'm just going to articulate where my beliefs differed from Chan's, or where I disagreed with the wording. A couple of different instances, Chan speaks about "pleasing God," speaking of it as a priority.

If God is as infinitely and relentlessly loving as Chan portrays Him, then "pleasing" him is a silly idea. A couple of wording issues within the book appeared, leading the reader to certain conclusions that might not be what Chan means to communicate. Chan, near the end of the book, goes through various examples of individuals who made incredible sacrifices for God and their faith. Chan speaks of the necessity of "constantly putting yourself in situations of discomfort," so that God can come through and provide. While trusting in God in times of struggle is important, it seems that Chan is saying that you should never be in a position of comfort or contentment, and if you are, you are doing something wrong!

Do I think this is what Chan is saying? No, I just think that he didn't articulate his point very well. He doesn't adress that doing good acts should be based on an internal desire placed by God to do so. It needs to start in the heart, because if you act simply out of obligation, it's an empty deed. God wants you to do things for Him because you love Him, not because you are trying to buy your way into heaven.

This leads into another strange wording, when Chan says that we need to act with our "minds on the life to come. The issues that I have with the book is more with the way that it was written and worded, and less with fundamental differences in beliefs. Despite these couple examples of a few issues I had with the book, the book was a lovely communication of God's goodness and how He should be central in our lives.

Again, these are just my opinions, I'm not claiming to be an authority. God bless Francis Chan, his family, and the good I'm sure he will continue to do in the world! Jul 02, Sarah rated it it was ok. I'm always skeptical when approaching a book like this. Because I've taken classes on rhetoric and argument, and these books tend to use a lot of emotional manipulation to support the argument presented in the book. Emotional manipulation can take the form of a bizarre, crazy story that is meant to move you At church, it usually ends in an altar call. These kinds of stories inhibit real emotion, I believe, and a story like what I just described a I'm always skeptical when approaching a book like this.

These kinds of stories inhibit real emotion, I believe, and a story like what I just described appeared in the first chapter of the book. Basically, the stories in this book mean to move and inspire you actually just confused me. In one, Chan told us about a man working with Ethiopians suffering from Mossy Foot, but he got a toothache and had to leave to take care of it. He never wanted to have to leave Ethiopia again, so he had all his teeth pulled and wore dentures for the rest of his life.

I don't know, I thought it would be more beneficial to get a dentist to Ethiopia. The woman who was a prostitute and now caters to prostitutes as a Christian was an awesome story, though.

Chan did say some awesome things about the general complacency of Christians, and outlined what being "obsessed" with God looks like, though. The "Profile of the Lukewarm" was very convicting and great for examining character. He also addressed how others perceive Christians, which I always think we need reminding of. However, I wish he reminded us about Grace a little more throughout the book. At one point, after writing a few chapters that are meant to challenge your character, he finally realizes that what he says could cause doubt, but God's grace covers us. I think he should have reminded us that the "profile of the obsessed" is not attainable without the grace and help of God.

Feb 28, Travis rated it really liked it. I was quite surprised at some of the reviews here. Personally, I approach books that deal with God looking to listen and learn from others experiences and take what I can incorporate myself from those things I feel I can improve on - in other words, pretty much everything. Some people seem to struggle with his views on loving God. We are all different so, of course, it makes sense that everyone experiences their walk differently so I can understand the statements from both sides on how they rela I was quite surprised at some of the reviews here.

We are all different so, of course, it makes sense that everyone experiences their walk differently so I can understand the statements from both sides on how they relate and experience God's love. Naturally, a relationships growth hold many components. Of these two main ones that immediately come to mind are the physical time of a relationship and the quality of time vested in the relationship. Not much different than the relationships with people here on earth.

If I have learned anything in my own walk with God, it would be I am imperfect, and in need of love, both giving and receiving in my relationship with Jesus and I am thankful my salvation is a free gift since I could never have earned it otherwise. I am so far from what He wants me to be, I just keep getting back in the saddle, thankful for his tender mercies He renews daily. Ultimately, this book had a positive influence overall. I am comfortable enough to take what I can agree with and not fuss over the areas I may disagree with, right or wrong.

I felt the sincerity in Chan's writing and think he added an interesting view of God through his personal relationship and his growing understanding. He came across as a man seeking God, serving God and loving God. All positives in my book! Nov 07, Andrew Mcneill rated it liked it. It was a good book. It's short, simple and easy to read. It talked about God's love and how our response should be enthusiastic and selfless living.

I have some criticisms though. I think he could have spent more time on who God is and what he has done in order to ground our response to God. He spent most of the time focusing on our response to God and that left the book slightly lop-sided. The chapter on lukewarm Christians was an important warning shot to people who live careless lives without t It was a good book. The chapter on lukewarm Christians was an important warning shot to people who live careless lives without thinking about God.

But when he says that such people are not Christians and will not enter heaven, I think he goes a step too far. Works should never be a criterion for assurance; we are saved by faith. Furthermore, casting doubt on a person's salvation will not motivate them to serve God out of love. It will motivate fearful living in the hope of maybe being good enough for God.

I'm not denying that there are many people who claim to be Christians and are not. But I am saying that we should make such people examine their faith, not their works. Get people to put their faith in Christ and to see how magnificent his love is. Then on the basis of that assurance let them live for God in full assurance of his love for them. Get them to build on that faith by seeing that every promise of God is reliable and that living for him is more precious than living for self. Otherwise this was a good book. But there are other books which ground radical living more firmly in an understanding of God's grace.

Dec 21, Simon rated it did not like it. Like some here and on other websites, I'm one of those who was done with this book by chapter 4. Having recently read The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning, this book couldn't stand in higher contrast. Chan's tone seems faintly aggravated and impatient from the very beginning, but he makes his agenda abundantly clear once he's reached the section on "Lukewarm Christians". No argument can convince me that this isn't, for all intents and purposes, a works gospel, and I just don't have time for Like some here and on other websites, I'm one of those who was done with this book by chapter 4.

No argument can convince me that this isn't, for all intents and purposes, a works gospel, and I just don't have time for it. There's no doubt in my mind that Chan lives and believes the way he says he does, and that he's coming from a place of true love and concern for Christians as a whole, but I believe his overall message is worrisome at best, and potentially devastating to someone who is living his or her life believing they are simply not good enough, not selfless enough, not hard-working enough, and not "Christian" enough to truly accept Christ's gift of grace.

On page 84, after an exhaustive passage describing what he calls the "Lukewarm Christian" a passage in which EVERY reader, no matter what their walk with God, is bound to see some of his or herself , he says, "As I see it, a lukewarm Christian is an oxymoron; there's no such thing. To put it plainly, churchgoers who are 'lukewarm' are not Christians.

We will not see them in heaven. It falls short of what I know of my God - who IS love, and patience, and grace - on so many levels I can't even count them. Don't believe it for a second.

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Aug 22, Adam Calvert rated it did not like it Shelves: This book is one of the most confusing I've ever read about the Christian life. Chan offers a mixed view of saying the Christian life is lived out of love and not out of fear-and-guilt, but then mainly tries through fear-and-guilt to persuade his readers to live the Christian life. Throughout the book Chan seems very confused and inconsistent in his approach to either stir up the idle Christian or convert the non-Christian.

Frankly, This book is one of the most confusing I've ever read about the Christian life. For instance, he says on the one hand, we're basically all lukewarm, halfhearted, stagnant Christians p. The inconsistency abounds so greatly throughout the book that it would be difficult to list all the examples. But as a reviewer I would caution the reader to beware of this fact and to be on the lookout for a multitude of false dichotomies either this, or that, when it very well could be both this and that, or something else entirely, etc.

Now commendably, Chan recognizes a problem in the church where many Christians seem to have a very shallow Christian life. The reason for this I think Chan presents very well in his preface: My view of God was narrow and small" p. The crux of it all is why we are this way, and it is because we have an inaccurate view of God" p.

To put it clearly, many Christians in today's church have shallow Christian lives because they have a narrow, small, inaccurate view of God. And I would whole-heartedly agree with this assessment. For a particularly compelling article on this same assessment, I suggest A. However, while Chan sets up the problem clearly in the preface, the rest of the book falls very short of the solution.

The title in full is, "Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God," with two arrows on the cover, the first one pointing down and the second pointing up. It seems reminiscent of Paul's style of teaching - the teaching about who Christ is and what He's done Rom , Eph , Col , then flowing from that, the teaching of our response to Him Rom , Eph , Col But when you actually read this book, it is far from any of this. If the problem is a narrow, small, inaccurate view of God, one would think the solution would be to present a deep, grand, accurate view of God.

But Chan seems to give little attempt at this; for he spends only three chapters on the person of God and really not very well and the next seven chapters on the person of the "Christian"? This unbalance in his book is truly unhelpful. At one point he makes abiding in Christ in 1 John 2: Chan makes this verse mean that we must "spend ourselves" or else we'll shrink from Christ in shame at his coming.